Can we always tell the difference? - please vote

General discussion on all labradoodle-related matters - anything not otherwise covered by specific forums on the site.

One of these is a Standard Poodle, which one?

Poll ended at 11 Aug 2009, 13:47

1. Image
6
9%
2. Image
14
20%
3. Image
25
36%
4. Image
22
31%
5. Image
3
4%
 
Total votes: 70

linny
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Re: Can we always tell the difference? - please vote

Post by linny » 05 Sep 2009, 01:32

I would PM you but you have not activated this facility?
I agree that everyone should stand together .
I understand your reasons for withholding your identity, BUT threats and intimidation can surely only harm if you allow them to.
Can you not make a formal complaint to the Police?
Feel free to email me via info@rainbowvalleysanctuary.org.uk if you would rather not discuss this publicly

tamaruke
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Re: Can we always tell the difference? - please vote

Post by tamaruke » 05 Sep 2009, 23:51

I have sat and watched while all of these allegations have unfolded - knowing the truth the entire time. Beverley has now used my name on more than one occasion to attempt to benefit her cause so it must be my turn to speak.

I told Beverley to remove my name from any public displays in reference to RM and herself and she has now chosen yet another public forum to allude to the fact that i am in support of her practices. If Beverley wants to twist the truth and make accusations then she can do so without reference to myself.

Until a few months ago both my husband and myself held Beverley in high regard. We assisted her whenever possible out of respect (at that time).
I was involved with Beverley in some business agreements but discovered that the agreements were more one sided than they were fair.
Beverley has this art of being able to always appear the victim (at anyone's expense).
I can tell you that my husband and myself visited RM last year when Beverley told us she was in an emotional crisis.
My husband had just been diagnosed with Cancer and had only recently come out of hospital (he continues to battle to this day and has not been able to work in this time).

When we arrived at RM our shock at what we witnessed was difficult to describe. My husband was so disgusted at what he saw he vowed to NEVER return.
We did, however, naively continue to try and assist Beverley, in good faith and out of respect (at that time).

As time went on it became more and more difficult to work WITH Beverley as the situations were constantly changing, it was obvious she had NO respect for us and the demands on us became too emotionally debilitating.
Conflicts soon began when I stood my ground and challenged Beverley on her unkept dogs and other issues – for which she constantly blamed her staff (once again - always the victim).

We received a phone call from Beverley late one evening to say Helen was already on her way to our property (some ten hours drive) with 11 dogs in a horse float as RM were being inspected to next day by a Liquidator (a whole new story there) and she needed to hide them. As sick as my husband was at that time – we went out into the rain and made accommodation arrangements for the RM dogs to arrive – again out of respect for Beverley.

Soon there after Beverley convinced me (naively) that she needed to de-bark her dogs or risk losing them.
At the time of the de-barking Helen made the appointments for the dogs and I assisted Beverley (at that time).
Beverley led us (and the vet) into believing that there was no other option to appease the EPA requirements than to de-bark her dogs and euthanising could be possible if this was not acrried out.

We (myself and our vet) were NOT told the entire truth at that time (as is habitual from Beverley).
We were told the EPA supported her de-barking her dogs – which has now been discovered to be untrue.
At this time i trusted Beverley and believed what she told me.

When Beverley's dogs arrived at our property they were in a very neglected and un-kept state.
So much so that the vet actually wanted to impound them as the condition of the coats were so matted and neglected.
NOTE: some of the dogs sent to our property are the SAME dogs named in photographs taken at RM last week.

As time went on reality started to set in.
We made the decision to disassociate ourselves from Beverley.

The straw that broke the camel's back was the Neglected dogs which we had witnessed on numerous occasions.
Although I had offered to assist with bathing and shaving the dogs to make them more comfortable (even when husband was undergoing Chemotherapy) Beverley refused to allow me to help and told me to leave the coats as they were.

Beverley has chosen to make pubic statements on how Kind I was to help her de-bark her dogs.
I severed my relationship with Beverley some months ago, so her public display of gratitude is just another cunning ploy to draw attention to me as if I am supporting her – which could not be further from the truth.

At this time Beverley was still indebted to me for a Stud Male puppy from the recent Flo/Charlemagne litter which was a replacement for a RM male which was diagnosed as infertile.
I had lent Beverley my stud Male Tamaruke Remington for ONE mating – free of charge. (Fool Me – I was sucked in to her web also).
Beverley mated him to her female "Sunnie" and without my knowledge I am told that she has retained TWO male puppies (one named Remington Steel).
She NEVER forwarded me the Male puppy she owed to me and refused to reply to all communications requesting when the puppy she owed me would be arriving.

Beverley has chosen to email me on numerous occasions to intimidate and threaten me if i dared to speak out even when she is fully aware of my husband’s Ill health.
I can not sit idle while Beverley attempts to allude to the fact that I support her poor husbandry and the manner of care of her dogs.

I DO NOT condone her breeding practices or the manner in which she cares (or rather DOES NOT CARE) of her dogs nor do I wish to ever be associated with Beverley now or in the future.
I am tired of the emails which attempt to intimidate and threaten me personally and my reputation. My husband is still undergoing arduous treatments so I have more important issues to deal with. It is not my fault if allegations towards RM and Beverley are flooding onto forums worldwide – this was brought on by Beverley herself. I should not have to pay by being slandered by Beverley. The hate, intimidation and the lies do not come from us they come from Beverley herself – behind the backs of her ardent supporters.
The dogs may well be now shaved and the kennels may well be cleaned BUT that does not take away from the fact that the dogs have been neglected and unkept for a very long time.

I wonder what Beverley would tell her puppy families if they told her they wanted to keep their new puppy in the same conditions that Beverley has kept her dogs/puppies??????

We have worked extremely hard to create a state of the art Breeding facility and also manage an onsite Veterinary Hospital – which I am sure would not be licensed should our facilities be anything but excellent. We facilitate a large Guardian program and do NOT hide behind glossy website photos.
I will not enter into mud slinging and fully expect Beverley will find a way to retaliate to my outspoken writings here as she normally does but when all is said and done – I can sleep at night and I know in my heart that I am honest and upfront.

I have never felt so used and disappointed in someone I held in such high regard in all my life.
I hold email evidence of ALL these matters should this need to progress any further.

With Integrity
Charlotte McGrath

Please know that the evidence on the below websites is supported by myself an my husband and is in line with what we have personally witnessed at RM.
The comments on these websites are the opinions of the authors.

http://www.govegan.com.au/puppies/?p=145

http://stoprutlandmanor.wordpress.com/
Last edited by tamaruke on 06 Sep 2009, 00:20, edited 2 times in total.

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Re: Can we always tell the difference? - please vote

Post by MrsAdmin » 06 Sep 2009, 00:00

Thank you Charlotte for that long and informative post. I had seen you were online and have sent you a pm.
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Post by Carole g » 06 Sep 2009, 13:27

Obviously we are in the middle of a large unfolding story. Thank you, Tamaruke for your very frank account. Keeping a cool head and your integrity is the way forward.I have been contacted by many breeders since the publication of the pedigree, every one of them has been supportive and is, like me, trying to find out the truth even though that will have unwanted repercussions.
ALWAYS visit the premises and see mum with pup. There are no excuses!
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Re: Can we always tell the difference? - please vote

Post by heike » 07 Sep 2009, 10:39

LOL, I am not a so called sock puppet as described. Just a concerned owner of two so called ASD Labradoodles. I have no agenda other than being concerned my dogs are not what they were being sold as. They are NOT labradoodles but mainly Poodles!! This is a concern as Bev has sold her breeding dogs around the world as Pure Australian Labradoodles and we are finding out they are not!!! Bev has lied to us all. She bred a pound puppy with fake pedigrees and sold them as pure ASD's. Her facilites are not up to par, she lied on her website, her dogs live in kennels not in guardian homes. I have no idea what kind of dogs i paid alot of money for and I am not hiding behind a fake name. I don't blame my breeder, she didn't know. I just want the truth behind this all!!

Mary

Re: Can we always tell the difference? - please vote

Post by Mary » 07 Sep 2009, 13:50

I will reply to this again, but watch how I put it this time as I wrote something inappropriate before so apologize. I was just trying to show how angry I was towards RM. Well done tamaruke for speaking out and clearing your position I think that is admirable and you made me see that there is no smoke without fire. I had previously wondered how much was hype by the media but it surrmounts to cruelty debarking dogs. I didn't really know about RM before joining forums and understand that we dont know the full facts but well done to Caroleg and co for bringing this situation to our attntion

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