Rutland Manor

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smilerz
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Rutland Manor

Post by smilerz » 20 Sep 2009, 03:18

Dear all,

I have been asked by two people that have flown in from the states Twyla and Kate to offer this website for all to read. These ladies have dropped everything to come and see for themselves the conditions of Rutland Manor. And last Monday they had another group of visitors to see Rutland Manor as well.

Please view the whole website before making any further comments.

http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutterfly.com/

aussiedoodles
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Re: Rutland Manor

Post by aussiedoodles » 20 Sep 2009, 04:09

Where are the photos of the INSIDE of the kennels as have been shown on the Prisoners for Profit Site?

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Re: Rutland Manor

Post by heike » 20 Sep 2009, 04:35

Once again you are deluded, these women came to Beverley's aid to help remove and stash her dogs before the inspection on the 21st. Dogs have been seen being removed from the RM property all day. If everything was A OK at RM, why did she remove the dogs?? :shock:

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Re: Rutland Manor

Post by aussiedoodles » 20 Sep 2009, 05:01

This website does not address
Underage Breeding
Breeding dogs from an Animal Shelter (Pound) and selling progeny (pets and Breeding Dogs) for large sums of money as ASD Labradoodles
First hand accounts of Neglected Coats and facilities
Pedigrees that are 'Invented"
up 95% poodle in dogs that were sold as ASD Labradoodles

The website is a Staged Show!!!!

Adam Lindley
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Re: Rutland Manor

Post by Adam Lindley » 20 Sep 2009, 05:34

Shooting messengers again :o

Medication is available to control split personalities.

Newsflash, all websites are staged shows...

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Carole g
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Re: Rutland Manor

Post by Carole g » 20 Sep 2009, 09:37

The messenger Adam? It appears that you are a whole hearted supporter, your signed inspection form is at the bottom of this page in pdf form ready to download.
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... awbawshire
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Re: Rutland Manor

Post by Adam Lindley » 20 Sep 2009, 09:59

And is it not entirely consistent with what I've said here?

We were asked to fill in the form on our visit which we duly did. I wasn't expecting it to make public viewing, but that doesn't mean anything other than proof that we actually visited. :)

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Re: Rutland Manor

Post by Adam Lindley » 20 Sep 2009, 10:02

Some interesting pictures on the site from today aren't there?

Apparently the unexpected visitors are still around...

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Carole g
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Re: Rutland Manor

Post by Carole g » 20 Sep 2009, 10:25

The questions are very carefully framed on the document you were asked to sign. no questions about the bed areas, no questions about climate control for adults, no question about standard of grooming. The document was set up personally for you, or was it you that were setup?

Having had a good look at the site, I do have some comments

Bare tin kennels, with no insulation and no comfort, temperatures are very extreme in this part of Australia.
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... dmanor/107
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... dmanor/111

Mask being stripped down of her mats for a so called “summer cut”, but surely it was winter and she was sent out into the bitter cold.
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... dmanor/322
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... dmanor/323

No enrichment, toys, obstacles, anything to make life interesting for dogs who live their entire lives in these conditions
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... dmanor/113

No view whatsoever of the indoor “bedrooms” just of the corridor outside
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... dmanor/316
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... dmanor/324

Some odd looking thin hessian sacks, that look like feed bags rather than bedding, they were not on the beds anyway when the place was photographed last month
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... ndmanor/83

No toys in any of the puppy pens and I looked from every angle
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... dmanor/126
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... dmanor/260
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... dmanor/258

Is this Shania feeding some other bitch’s litter? She would have struggled with her own after the mastectomy.
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... dmanor/488
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... dmanor/489

And here is poor Fashion, debarked and out in the cold and wet
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... dmanor/496
and again with other bitches.
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... dmanor/403

Let’s hope the weather improves soon.

There is only one toy for the dogs on any picture and that is a very dolled up picture for a publicity shot on a table and it looks like pup does not understand what a toy is at all!
http://whywesupportrutlandmanor.shutter ... dmanor/287

I think most of us have much higher standards than is demonstrated on this supporters' site
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Re: Rutland Manor

Post by Adam Lindley » 20 Sep 2009, 11:51

Weather stats for the area - not as extreme as you imply, although no doubt there are hotter and colder days.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/ ... 5093.shtml

The hessian sacks go on to metal frames to make trampoline beds. They keep the dogs off the floor and allow air to flow under the beds on warm days. Our guys love them, and when the sacks get ruined you get another one for $5.

Spring has certainly sprung here (shorts & sunblock), and looking at the photos from today, it doesn't look too bad down there.

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Re: Rutland Manor

Post by linny » 20 Sep 2009, 11:55

We were aware of this site yesterday Adam and were just awaiting your arrival here with the link.
You being the messenger so to speak.

This is just so staged....brand new feed bins ..so shiny and clean, a new puppy toy...never a chew mark or slobber stain .cute puppy with parasol and new toy.
Everything looks spotless and lovely.
Mask's face and head in the clipping picture gives an idea of what her coat was really being clipped for!
The place has indeed been spruced up....wonderful for the dogs.
However what we would like now is clarification on the pedigrees , an end to back to back ,underage breeding and insulation and sound proofing rather than the debarking that has been performed on these dogs, the noise levels from dogs barking inside a tin shed must be quite high.

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Re: Rutland Manor

Post by Hel&Mark » 20 Sep 2009, 12:19

Adam Lindley wrote: Medication is available to control split personalities.
And rules are set out on this forum to avoid nasty comments like this. :evil:
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Check this is being adhered to before you buy your puppy:
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Re: Rutland Manor

Post by Adam Lindley » 20 Sep 2009, 12:22

Adam Lindley wrote:Medication is available to control split personalities.
Isn't this a statement of truth?
linny wrote:We were aware of this site yesterday Adam and were just awaiting your arrival here with the link.
The coven been plotting have we? Glad we didn't disappoint.

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Re: Rutland Manor

Post by Hel&Mark » 20 Sep 2009, 12:26

Adam, you read back through this. You're weakening your argument by using nasty spiteful comments that will offend not only those at whom they are aimed. Now if you're trying to build an argument that people will believe in, it's really not the way to do things. I'd suggest a more mature approach. :roll:
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Re: Rutland Manor

Post by Carole g » 20 Sep 2009, 23:56

ALWAYS visit the premises and see mum with pup. There are no excuses!
DONT BUY FROM PUPPY HARMERS
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