Attacked by an alsatian!

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Attacked by an alsatian!

Post by venart » 02 Dec 2012, 14:25

I'm really just posting this to vent my anger, but I'm fuming at the moment!

Wispa and I were just out for our afternoon walk and almost as soon as we entered the woods and she went off-lead there was a couple with an off-lead alsatian walking towards us. The couple were tossing a ball for the dog and Wispa saw the dog when it was about 15 feet ahead of us and loped up to say hello, and was attacked!! It wasn't play fighting like puppies do, but the alsatian went for the neck, pinned her down and everything and she was yelping and so scared! The couple yelled at their dog and it got distracted enough to let Wispa go, by which time I'd reached them and Wispa shot off behind me. The woman grabbed the alsatian and the man walked up to me and tried to blame Wispa!!

"Oh, when dogs charge at him he goes ballistic, you should really control your dog"

WHAT?! :twisted:

ME?? Control MY dog?!

I was so shocked, I could barely say a word, and the man took a look at Wispa and said, 'oh, you're alright, you're just fine,' and walked away as I quickly clipped on Wispa's lead and hurried out of the woods. I swear he was only concerned that they'd be reported for having an aggressive dog.

Why do people let dogs off-lead when they KNOW they're dangerous to other dogs? I'm just so angry right now.

Wispa is generally fine, though. I did some heel work on the way home to distract her and I think the 5 chopped up cocktail sausages went a long way to making her feel better.
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Post by travis » 02 Dec 2012, 14:48

Poor Wispa. If he knew it went ballistic no matter how rarely it shouldn't be loose where it's going to meet other dogs. And you should control your dog!!! Unbelievable! - any yet we seem to hear that so often. Could he be sure it wouldn't do the same if a child ran up to it?
Chica was bitten this morning by a little git of a Jack Russell. Three of them came running up to her and I thought from the way the owner was hurrying over that we may have a problem with one of them but it had nipped her before he got to it. No harm done though. I think these doodles are there own worst enemy because they don't seem to consider the other dog may not be friendly. :roll:
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Post by Bid » 02 Dec 2012, 14:54

Poor Wispa :( :(

I think balls cause a lot of problems out on walks - dogs are either protective of their own balls, or steal other dogs balls and won't give them back. My view is that unless you are using a ball to control your dog you should put them away when other dogs approach - maybe it wouldn't have happened if they had done that :|

I hope Wispa is OK - usually when dogs yelp/scream it is a "don't touch me, I'm harmless!" sort of situation, but it is horrid to witness when it is your dog. :( :(
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Post by Markt3857 » 02 Dec 2012, 15:43

Poor Wispa and poor you. Glad to hear there is no damage done though. Briar loves her ball too and I use it as a form of control over her but ALWAYS put it away when other dogs are around. She can be a bit protective over it and has had it nicked before !

The Alsatians owners were very unreasonable in there reaction IMO and should at the very least apologised

As you say hopefully the sausages went a long way to aid recovery from her ordeal :D
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Post by briansangel » 02 Dec 2012, 17:54

Im afraid im an off lead bad policeman... If i could make it a Law to have all dogs on leads except in designated areas then i would... We have been knocked off our bikes seen others knocked off their bikes .. Children knocked over balls stolen and jeans muddied by jumping up dogs.. My Son was pinned down on the beach a few times by big dogs when he was younger and i was nearly bitten by a dog trying to take my beloved pet ferret out of my arms when i was walking her on her lead on the beach she didnt need a lead as she never left my side but im grateful for the lead as i could yank her up into my arms to protect her .. Was told i shouldnt have a ferret where dogs are walking?????? (I didnt realise the beach was JUST for Dogs?!!).... The owners are always miles away totally unaware of what their dogs are doing and most of time you get "Its ok it wont hurt you"... Sorry but i dont want their dogs jumping up at me or knocking me off my bike or attacking a pet that is secured by a lead.... Dogs arnt chidren they are animals and they must be kept on a lead .... Can feel the hate lol but its a bug bear of mine.... Just my opinion so dont take offence... Am glad your dog wasnt hurt or you for that matter as the Alsation could of attacked you too.......... My puppy will never be off lead except in our garden but that doesnt safeguard her from other dogs and their ignorant owners xxx
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Post by Alfieandlindsey » 02 Dec 2012, 17:58

Oh poor wispa and poor you Emily. I hope the sausage has helped with her recovery and perhaps a nice glass of wine for you tonight xx
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Post by manderson306 » 02 Dec 2012, 18:04

poor wishper!!! hope she has got over her bad expieriance!!! i am also scared of dogs comming up to darcy - he loves everyone - and has been attacked by a jack russell who seemed to be ok. the owner just laughed & said that his dog 'was just playing'. i am now always on the look out for dogs i dont know!! feel better wispher :)
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Post by bedlingtondoodle » 02 Dec 2012, 18:17

Sorry to hear this. I am glad to hear that your dog is okay

Really goes to show how important a good recall can be. I wouldn't say that every dog should be on a lead (thats crazy) however I would say that you shouldn't let your dog just run up to other dogs, even if your dog is friendly it is YOUR job to not let your dog get into a bad situation.

In general I would say that if you can't reliably recall your dog then it is worth being very selective about letting your dog off lead

(and just cos I don't like the full "expensive mutt" thing when people say it about my dog I need to say German Shepard Dog or GSD, Alastation isn't a breed and never has been its a nickname that stems back to the anti-german attitudes of last century and people not wanting to have anything german in their homes -not trying to be patronising)
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Post by Bid » 02 Dec 2012, 18:37

briansangel wrote: My puppy will never be off lead except in our garden but that doesnt safeguard her from other dogs and their ignorant owners xxx
Ummmm - I'm sorry, I am going to have a quiet rant, because that really isn't a good idea! Whilst I agree that dogs shouldn't be allowed to rampage around out of control, it is unfair to never let them off lead. With the unfortunate experiences you have had I would have thought you would be extra keen to make sure that your puppy was exemplary! :D They need to run, and to socialise off lead with other dogs, and to enjoy full and active walks as much as possible! Unless you train them to do that in a safe way, you will never be able to let them off lead, which isn't fair on them.

A dog who isn't given appropriate exercise and socialisation (and they cannot socialise properly if never allowed to meet and greet dogs off lead) is likely to be the one suffering from stress, nervous when out, with no recall (because it won't have had a chance to practice it with distractions), and out of control around unfamiliar things such as bicycles, joggers etc. You are right, keeping her on her lead wont protect her from other dogs, because she won't be give the opportunity to learn how to give the correct signals to them, and how to behave nicely towards them. :(

I have a dog who chases deer and I have to go to some lengths to find safe places for her to go off lead, but believe me, when I do (and I go somewhere suitable at LEAST every other day) to watch her run and stretch her legs properly (which they can't do in an enclosed space) is truly joyful!

Rarely, there may be a real reason for not letting a dog off lead (aggression for example), but those are the exception! I am a wee bit horrified to find someone who hasn't yet got their puppy already planning to never let them off lead! Poor puppy! :( :(
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Post by Cate » 02 Dec 2012, 18:55

Hope Wispa is ok, taking toys/treats where other dogs are can cause jealousy issues unfortunately.
If we admit to ourselves, we have all had Fenton moments, an apology from the aggressive dogs owner would be nice, but you will find in most cases attack is their form of defence.
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Post by briansangel » 02 Dec 2012, 18:58

Maybe ill change my mind when i get her :wink:
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Post by briansangel » 02 Dec 2012, 19:09

She will need to be well trained before i even concider it tho.. Like its been said before other people always assume their dog is perfect and its other peoples dogs at fault for even breathing!!!... Cant change that but very easy to protect our dogs and ourselves.... My puppy will be going to a day creche 2 times a week to let her play with other dogs and i have a HUGE garden im sure she will be fine.. And who knows she may get a new Doodle playmate in time :wink: xxx
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Post by JudeinPlymouth » 02 Dec 2012, 19:21

Wowser Briansangel...... I will resist saying all the things that immediately came to my mind! :shock:

Dogs are creatures that need to run and feel the wind through their fur. To be frank, in my mind, to never allow a dog off lead is particularly unkind and an un-natural state of affairs.

My youngest doodle is still finding his feet with regard to reading doggie signals, so he does it get it wrong sometimes and gets a nip from an unfriendly dog (thankfully he's never suffered a full on attack) but BECAUSE he's off lead a lot and gets the chance to interact, he's slowly getting the idea...... the most panicky, distressed, uptight dogs I know are ones that are rarely let of lead.
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Re: Attacked by an alsatian!

Post by briansangel » 02 Dec 2012, 19:35

We are all entitled to our opinion i respect yours... Like i said i will have to train her well before i even concider letting her off lead.. And she will get plenty of chances to run wild trust me! xxx
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Re: Attacked by an alsatian!

Post by briansangel » 02 Dec 2012, 19:44

A dog shouldnt be let off lead if its jumps up at people or goes beserk and knocks people or kids off their feet and off their bikes.. Have seen it too many times.... Not saying all dogs are the same.... Until my dog is well trained i will be a responsible owner and keep her on a lead... She will be in Lakes with Hubby lots of times on his walking trips with his pals and their dogs up mountains im sure having a ball away from any harm!!... Looks like we have to agree to disagree xxx
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