Puppy not wanting to leave home

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Puppy not wanting to leave home

Post by Helen & Rigby » 23 Sep 2013, 18:55

Hi everyone!

I wonder if you can give us any pointers.

Rigby 14 weeks, has only been going on proper little walks just over a week. He was very keen to go initially, but the last few days he's not wanted to go. He needs lots of persuasion but once he's out he seems ok. Yesterday and today he has started backing away from his collar when I try to put it on. I don't go after him with it, I tempt him towards me with a treat, I've put it on and off today for short periods, put it on had a game taken it off etc. he also gets travel sick, which we thought we'd cracked but no :( we don't always take him in the car for walks so I don't know if it's that. He does tend to be on the nervous side. But also very curious.

I thought the sickness was nervousness and we distracted him with turkey which was going very well then yesterday we had out longest journey, 20 mins or so, he seemed fine but was then sick near home.

Also he tends to pull when he know he's nearly home.

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Re: Puppy not wanting to leave home

Post by Bid » 23 Sep 2013, 19:29

THe car sickness is verycommon with puppies and it frequently is stress. My youngest doodle used to poo in the car after about 30 secs. I used to take him on very short trips every day and he got used to it and is now perfectly happy in the car.

I would put her collar on for a few minutes throughout the day so she gets used to it and it doesn't always mean a walk - sometimes it could mean a game in the garden. Also, every few mihutes on her walk do a little bit of training sich as a sit or awatch me, and get very excited when she does it right and give her treats, so that even the boring bit on lead is a fun part of the walk. THat might help.
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Re: Puppy not wanting to leave home

Post by Helen & Rigby » 23 Sep 2013, 21:12

Thanks for that Bid.I like the idea of doing some training while out, and Interacting more with him directly. Do you think I should keep taking him in the car for short journeys or give him a break?
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Re: Puppy not wanting to leave home

Post by ClareV » 23 Sep 2013, 21:20

Have you enrolled in any puppy classes yet? Rugby sounds a little wary of the big wide world, and I wonder if puppy classes might help. The trainer could assess and give you some pointers maybe (as in tips, not more dogs!!)

I used to take Charlie half a mile up the road to a friend's house and he played with her dog whilst I worked, then I collected him in the car on my way home. It meant that he associated the car with good, fun things and only had v short journeys to start with.

I wonder if Rigby would be more confident if you tried a v short walk with another dog on occasion too... Although Bid would be the best person to check this with in case I am giving duff advice!

It all takes time and patience. I showed. Charlie as much as I could at an early stage as I was advised to, but then he was quite confident. Think it depends on the individual.

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Re: Puppy not wanting to leave home

Post by Helen & Rigby » 23 Sep 2013, 21:45

We have him booked for puppy classes on 13 oct, so yes we will ask then if no improvement. We took him for a carry when he was too small for walks, and he is used to traffic noises etc. we never make a fuss if he is frightened and he copes with new things well. I'm really not sure why he is like it. I will keep encouraging him, we have all the time we need. It just makes it tricky when we don't know why. I think he is timid by nature, I'm guessing as he's my first :D
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Re: Puppy not wanting to leave home

Post by Maggie111 » 23 Sep 2013, 21:46

Just a thought but how long are your walks?
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Re: Puppy not wanting to leave home

Post by Helen & Rigby » 23 Sep 2013, 21:50

20 or 30 mins. Not much actual walking goes on sometimes due to all the sniffing and picking up rubbish! I'm conscious he needs to socialise, so I try to take him places there will be other dogs but we are restricted by the car sickness thing. I only know a few dog owners and don't see them often.
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Re: Puppy not wanting to leave home

Post by Seventiesboy » 23 Sep 2013, 22:18

Dogs are very perceptive beasts and will read your body language. Trainers usually say that they train the owners not the dogs.
He is your first and you point out that he is timid. In the nicest sense, do you think you may be a little timid too? If you were, that would be completely normal.
We left ours dogs collars on from day one 24/7 and they get used to them. Puppies can be nervous on walks and get tired quickly. My advice would be to use lots of positive encouragement, never scold if you can avoid it and be confident yourself. You won't do any harm. Let him grow up a bit before challenging with the car too much.
Look forward to the puppy classes and enjoy this lovely puppy stage. AND DON'T WORRY it will all turn out right
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Re: Puppy not wanting to leave home

Post by Helen & Rigby » 23 Sep 2013, 22:47

You could be right there from an energy perspective. I have been poorly too so that might not have helped. I'm also wondering if its anything to do with the fact we keep him out if the hallway and porch except to take him out. Could it be anything to do with that I wonder. I don't think it's the collar itself more what it represents. Hmmmm, I will have a think.
Thanks for the help folks, much appreciated.
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Re: Puppy not wanting to leave home

Post by Kirstie & Murphy » 23 Sep 2013, 22:56

Murphy used to plonk his bum at the end of the drive and wouldn't move :lol: I used to carry him to the grassy areas and the park where he was fine, he just didn't like the hard surfaces :roll:
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Re: Puppy not wanting to leave home

Post by Pollydoodle » 23 Sep 2013, 23:05

Just a thought.... to get out do you have to go past your car . Could this be why he is backing away from the collar .
Also try think back over the last few days , did something scare him when out? You say you don't fuss him when he is frightened so wondering if he got a fright when out. Wrack that brain :wink:
Best wishes and hope all is resolved soonish.

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Re: Puppy not wanting to leave home

Post by Helen & Rigby » 24 Sep 2013, 08:17

It's parked next to the house, so not past exactly but it is there. He will often go to the car after a walk.

When I say we don't fuss him when he's frightened I mean if there is something new like the Hoover or whatever we don't sooth him we just let him get used to it and none of that kind of thing bothers him. There is nothing obvious on a walk that we can think of. But we are going gently with him to see if we can see where the hesitation is. I just don't want to push him when he is saying he's not sure.
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Re: Puppy not wanting to leave home

Post by Webbiedood » 24 Sep 2013, 08:31

Hi Helen & Rigby. All good points made so far. Millie was not exactly keen to go out the first few weeks and always keener to come home but it was just puppy wariness and lots of treats out on walks really helped and she soon became confident out and about. A tip for the car is to go and sit in it without going anywhere, sitting on you lap having a cuddle or a treat. Then the same with the car switched on and then short trips to fun places. Even if it is just down the road to meet a waiting family member. Our previous dog (a rescue) was not good in the car at all so holidays/day trips were always stressful for all, so we've focused on getting Millie used to the car and now she can't wait to get in. Good Luck.
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Re: Puppy not wanting to leave home

Post by julieju » 24 Sep 2013, 09:31

Great advice from everyone. If you ever wanted try a short walk with another dood that didn't involve the car, we'd be happy to come to you (all of 5 minutes up the road :D ). Aero is 18 months and still very excitable/playful, but he's small (18/19"), fairly cautious with greetings, and tends to be submissive. Just a thought xx
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Re: Puppy not wanting to leave home

Post by Helen & Rigby » 24 Sep 2013, 10:12

Thanks for the great ideas, experience and support. It really means a lot.

That sounds like a great idea Julie, thanks ever so. Did you know there is a training field fenced off and double gated at manor farm?
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