which breeds worry you?

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which breeds worry you?

Post by JanieM » 18 Mar 2008, 14:09

I saw this topic on another forum and found it really interesting reading people's replies.
What dog breeds scare, worry or concern you? I don't intend this thread to be picking on other breeds but just as a discussion and out of interest! :D

Today during our off lead walk a boxer came charging up to Brian. Now I find it really hard to read boxers (or any other dog with a docked tail) because a vital part of it's body language has been amputated. Luckily the owners called it away but boxers do make me nervous.

I'm also scared of rotti's (I know, how obvious is that :roll: ). I've met some lovely rotts but I'm still very wary of them. I think it's because they don't have a soft cuddly face (like doods) and when they stare its so intimidating.

What about you?

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Re: which breeds worry you?

Post by JanieM » 18 Mar 2008, 14:19

Just wanted to add to that that I'm pretty much wary of any dog who's off lead especially if I've got Brian with me. I think sometimes puppies can give off the wrong signals to older unknown doggies.

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Re: which breeds worry you?

Post by Hel&Mark » 18 Mar 2008, 15:02

I agree with you there: puppies can be quite an alarming sight to an older dog. It's difficult because you need to socialise them, and often people assure you it's fine for your pup to play with their dog, and then when your pup bounds over to the older dog, it shows quite nervous body language.

I'm not really scared of dogs in any way but I believe that is because my family ran a kennels for a while. My grandparents were judges at shows and also dog trainers, so I spent my childhood with all sorts of dogs and am foolishly fearless with them. What scares me is irresponsible owners. You can see them a mile off. And I know that when I do see them, I get nervous and transmit all my fear right down the lead to Barley, so he plays up! It is the people who aren't even watching their dog when it's off the lead, and don't even turn round to see what's happening between me, my dog and theirs. And those ones who have clearly gone for their chosen dog because they like to look "hard" and then usually their dog looks pretty "hard" too! :shock:

These people are dangerous as dog owners. Sometimes I think you should have to pass a responsible citizen test before being allowed a dog.
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Re: which breeds worry you?

Post by saz1970 » 18 Mar 2008, 15:08

I am scared of German shepherds because when I was about 9 I stroked one outside a sweetshop and it jumped up and knocked one of my teeth out!!! It didn't mean to and the owner was really apologetic, said it wasn't used to children. My fault entirely but I have always been wary of them ever since!

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Re: which breeds worry you?

Post by tashanlouie » 18 Mar 2008, 15:09

Rottis, Dobermans and staffys, Im sure they are lovely but they really do scare me :shock:
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Re: which breeds worry you?

Post by fudgepuddle » 18 Mar 2008, 16:15

GSDs, rotties, staffies, and manchester terriers :shock:
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Re: which breeds worry you?

Post by Fattysplash » 18 Mar 2008, 16:26

I don't think any particular breed of dog worries me, it's a particular breed of owner that causes me to panic! I've had 'close encounters' with all kinds of dogs, big dogs,small dogs, waggy tailed, no tail, staffies, mastiffs,rotties but the end result ALWAYS depends on the actions of the owner/handler! I live in a place where teenagers 'swagger' around with rotties, staffies & all manner of mixes between the breeds it's that "go on then, if you think you're hard enough" attitude that causes the problem. What sort of legal system will arrest someone for walking down a street with a penknife in hand, but ignores the scumbags with a potentially lethal 'weapon' (or two, or three...) at the end of a piece of leather??? It's not the fault of any dog, or any particular breed, it's our law (or lack of it) that allows irresponsible people to own/neglect/abuse these dogs & create bad tempered, nervous, canine dynamite. :evil: ( I've been on my soap box a bit today, sorry, I'll get down, calm down & go have a nice cup of tea now :oops: ) :mrgreen:
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Re: which breeds worry you?

Post by amber » 18 Mar 2008, 16:29

Makes perfect sense FS
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Re: which breeds worry you?

Post by MrsAdmin » 18 Mar 2008, 16:42

Good point Fattysplash. It is the owners that are the problem.

The only dog I was ever cautious about was when I was taking my then 3yr old daughter to the loo block on a camp site in France and met the most enormous Rottie you have ever seen walking around on his own. All muscle and shoulders and a very hard stare. I promptly put Jenny behind me as I thought she would not have a chance if the dog took it into his head to have a go at us. I thought it exceptionally stupid of the site owner to have such a dog loose (or any dog for that matter) because he could not predict that a child on their own would not do something stupid to the dog that could have resulted in an attack - not the animal's fault at all.

That said, when Jenny was 5 she went to play at a friend's house and came home to tell me about how they kept 'lots of dogs' (turned out to be Rotties too) and the kids had taken it in turns to run around the wire on the top of the cages. :shock: It made my blood run cold to think what could have happened if they had fallen in. You can't always protect them from other people's ignorance can you.
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Re: which breeds worry you?

Post by Lottie'n'Alfie » 18 Mar 2008, 18:15

I'm afraid its OWNERS of small dogs that annoy me :evil: when they pick up their precious little baby :roll: when they see my daft and leggy 11 month old pup running over to say hello. Luckily Alfie is really good at persuading even the most neurotic dog to play with him but it's the owners over protection that does my head in - it may be small, BUT IT'S A DOG! Let it act like a dog and socialise. Hate to say it, but cocker spaniel owners are the worst! Give me a rottie or doberman any day.

Phew, I feel better for that :lol:
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Re: which breeds worry you?

Post by Sooty » 18 Mar 2008, 19:44

Dogs that give you the stand off from a distance scare me because of the unpredictability of the situation. Luckily where we mostly walk i know 99.9% of the dogs (and owners) and know who to avoid.

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Re: which breeds worry you?

Post by fudgepuddle » 18 Mar 2008, 21:06

On consideration Fattysplash, you are right! It IS the owners that allow their dogs to get away with unacceptable behaviour that are the problem!

I have a very good friend with one of the breeds I mentioned, and when he bit me (I sat on the sofa & the doberman needed to pounce on me to lick me & say hello which was ok as she was a lovely sweetheart & very ditsy) but it alarmed him & he dived in and bit my ankle, drawing blood & ripping my jeans! :shock:

All she did was pick him up & put him out of the room saying he was worried the dobermann jumped!!! :shock:

Mind you, I still feel sorry for the little chap - he was about 6 months old when chrissie got him, and had spent his life at the person who bred him's kennels, living in a rabbit hutch on his own :cry:

People can make such a difference - they only want to please us, and decent kind owners that put time & effort into a puppys training are the foundation to a happy & well socialised dog that understands their place in the family.
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Re: which breeds worry you?

Post by amber » 18 Mar 2008, 21:24

fudgepuddle wrote:

Mind you, I still feel sorry for the little chap - he was about 6 months old when chrissie got him, and had spent his life at the person who bred him's kennels, living in a rabbit hutch on his own :cry:

People can make such a difference - they only want to please us, and decent kind owners that put time & effort into a puppys training are the foundation to a happy & well socialised dog that understands their place in the family.
Your'e right Mia, this is the problem. They need to be properly handled and socialised, with people and noises, and other animals etc, etc.
What these breeders don't consider is what goes in makes all the difference to the well being of the puppy and it's happiness, and that of his owners. The handling and socialisation makes the difference.
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Re: which breeds worry you?

Post by Mightdoodle » 18 Mar 2008, 22:41

I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, but I don't understand people who own certain breeds which have a reputation for being more dangerous.

Obviously there are good rotties and staffies out there, and bad, vicious doodles(?!) but my theory is people who are likely to be attracted to owning a dog with a dangerous reputation, are often the kind of people who SHOULDN'T own this kind of dog. They are less likely (again a huge generalisation here!) in my eyes to be the kind of person who really cares for the dog and other people and gets it instead for the street cred.

So I do get scared of people with rotties, akitas, staffies, boxers, etc. I don't uderstand why people would have a dog like that. Having said that, I did know the lovliest rotties, who was a rescue and gorgeous. But the owner was a dog warden and very responsible.

I agree, it's the teens walking a staffie I'm scared of.

I've been told my husband's cousin owns an akita - he's just got out of prison and likes the street cred. He's training it to be a "guard dog" so he says (who knows why he needs a guard dog) and it's already taken a huge chunk out of my mother in law's leg. In my opinion he shouldhave the dog taken off him before it goes for a child. But the politics of his family go beyond my control so I can't unfortunately get involved [and mother in law is a stirrer so it may not be completely true, but I've seen the bite mark and it was large and very nasty].

So yep, my fear is of a certain type of owner attracted to a certain breed of dog really.
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Re: which breeds worry you?

Post by amber » 18 Mar 2008, 22:55

They're not born bad though, they are trained by non entities to be bad and fight for their owners amusment, and pocket money. They are born as innocent as any puppy is. It is very sad :(
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