I have just been attacked by Monty - What do I do?

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Osaeru
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I have just been attacked by Monty - What do I do?

Post by Osaeru » 09 Jul 2008, 13:06

Hello all,

I don't really know what to write.
You all know my lovable but slightly insane Doodle.
For the third time in a week he has attacked me, this time I gave him a command to go to the kitchen, which he does usually without any problem.
Today he turned and bit me on the hand, he was growling and and had his teeth beared (sp?) at me, I told him No and stepped towards him and he really went for me, I have bites and scratches all over.
I had to get a sofa cushion between me and him to protect myself, I didn't run away. I stood my ground and moved forward.
He has also beared his teeth and growled at Charlotte who is 16 because she went to pick up some bread that my son had dropped off the floor before Monty could eat it.
Has anyone got any ideas on why he may suddenly be doing this and what should I do?
We are both worried in case he turns his attention to our Autistic twins and that he is behaving so poorly.
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Post by shaywood » 09 Jul 2008, 13:13

The only advice I can offer is if you haven't had him completely checked by the vet do so now.

I am so sorry to hear this my old collie did this after years of being great and it did turn out to be a health problem. Please contact your vet and get him checked over before going any further. Good luck.

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Post by Bella » 09 Jul 2008, 13:17

How worrying for you :(

Let us know what happens. Prayers going up that it's only a little glitch along the road.
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Post by Osaeru » 09 Jul 2008, 13:22

He has been completely checked by the vet who gave him another once over when we took him to have a tic removed from his ear.

I am so worried and hurting :(
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Post by Bid » 09 Jul 2008, 13:33

You poor thing - that has come as a bit of a shock hasn't it! I would PM Barneyboy - she would probably have some ideas. There is also a thread from Kath about Roxy having probs - I'll see if I can find it.
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Post by willowtreemum » 09 Jul 2008, 13:35

You need urgent help from a good dog trainer for starters - good ones will do emergency home help - mine does. Talk it through with him / him to see if there's something you are missing from this situation ( it could be poor body language or something you'll need outside help to spot ) , ring your vets and see if they have a number for a dog behavious expert too - you NEED professional help here but be aware that at the risk of sounding negative...your children / family come first and you cannot risk having him in the house with agression issues such as these.....a friend of mine had his Giant Schnauzer put to sleep recently for the very same reason - the dog could not be trusted .

Be safe in the meantime and dont put yourself at risk from further incidents - it sounds to me like he needs demoting - it sounds like he thinks he's higher up in the 'pack' than he should be and this needs to be addressed..quickly!
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Post by Bid » 09 Jul 2008, 13:39

http://labradoodle.org.uk/forum/viewtop ... &sk=t&sd=a

Here is the link - maybe you could send a PM to Kath who has been through all this - she had a behaviourist round & I think it was on her insurance.
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Post by ronniedog » 09 Jul 2008, 14:17

when did the problem start, was it before or after the recent visit to the vets. I would echo what has been said by others and get him to a vet, as if it is sudden dramatic change in the dogs behaviour/character (and I accept I am not an expert) I would have thought it was a health issue rather than a behavioural one.
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Post by Ali Cat » 09 Jul 2008, 14:47

How Old is he? I only ask because Eric "flexed" his muscles with OH the other week and went for him, more snapping than biting. We put it down to adolescence. Glenn (the OH) doesn't "do" animal psychology so just thumped Eric square in the chest - not in anger just firmly and deliberately. Needless to say that Eric doesn't do that to OH anymore!! Tho I wouldn't recommend it unless a dog-behaviour expert knows why it worked and agrees!!

He does go growly and snappy when we are trying to retreive shoes, remote controls, mobile phones etc but we have sussed that its only when he is in a corner that he does that. Drag him out of the corner and he's a kitten again!!

Also, and I know this is cheating, Eric suffers from ear infections and hates the gunge that we squirt down them. So all I have to do is raise his ear - he drops his swag/booty and legs it :lol:

I blame myself a little for his flexing of muscles cos I let him walk through the door first (stops him legging it back out and onto the street), walk around him instead of making him move etc. So I think he actually thinks he is higher up in the heirachy than me!

Will be interested to know what is advised! Keep us posted - you are not alone in this problem

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Post by Flossie » 09 Jul 2008, 15:07

Oh my goodness, what a worry for you. I'm sure he's just being a teenager and will get over it, but agree with others that you need to get a good behaviourist in asap. Do you go to dog training classes? If so maybe they could recommend one?

I'm sure a while back Amos on here went through something like this and happily came out the other side! I think that when they are teenagers you really do have to be very firm... doodles are very clever, and I think as a breed you really have to make it very clear who's boss (I certainly have had to be with Flossie, especially at about 18 months.)

good luck and let us all know how you get on..

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Post by Dood about town » 09 Jul 2008, 15:35

Hi Nicola, hope you're ok!

I'm with Julie, Monty definatley needs some professional help. Hes a big old lad and he's only going to get worse if hes not sorted out.

Will you not fall out with me if I say something a bit controvertial :oops: can't even spell it! Having met Monty and seen him in action I'd say he is a bully and he is controlling you, him attacking you is just another example of it along with his lead pulling etc, you are his pet and not the other way around. You can see he is very strong willed and you all, you OH and kids as well as Monty need to get some training done before it gets out of control irrevocably (probably can't spell that either). Monty is lovely, please don't fall out with me, I hope you get him sorted or we'll all be sad :(

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Post by Osaeru » 09 Jul 2008, 17:34

Dood about town - I will never fall out with anyone who offers advice to me, I am glad that you and I have an understanding where we can talk openly to each other.

Looking back, Monty has always been Dominant, even the day we got him, he came charging over a low wall and jumped all over us (which we thought was sweet at the time!)

I shall give the vet a ring tomorrow, see if he can recommend a behavioural specialist and get his view.

Monty has been really boisterous since this, weird thing was yesterday he did everything he was told without once stepping out of line.

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Post by Bella » 09 Jul 2008, 17:49

If you're insured you might be lucky and find they will pay for a behaviourist. If I remember Kath was lucky and PetPlan paid for the help she needed.
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Post by tonylees » 09 Jul 2008, 18:34

Hi All,

Just have to jump in with everyone else on this one... you need to talk to a dog behaviour expert. We recently had one for our mongrel terrier and everything he told us made sense and he made a real difference. Unfortunately our Terrier had deep rooted issues that were bred in to him (don't know what he was crossed with but looked like a bull terrier of some sort, we didn't get him unti he was 6mths old and he had been mistreated), I don't need to tell you the action we had to take.

On a lighter note you know Monty's breeding and I have NEVER heard of an aggresive Dood. I think he just needs to be put in his place BUT you have to do it the right way consistently for it to work. Please phone a few 'experts' and get their opinion.
The one I used charged £75 per visit but we could call him anytime to get advise

I hope everything works out, keep us informed

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Post by Barneyboy » 09 Jul 2008, 19:44

Please feel free to PM me.

In the mean time, - at least he warned you with a growl, shame he felt he needed to warn you, and perhaps even bigger shame you didn't heed his warning.....

I would suggest popping him on his lead when he's in the house, discourage any chewing and biting of it to start with by distracting him with a game. The lead can then be used to get him where you want him without having to man handle him and putting yourselves at risk.

And I agree, he needs a vet check if this is sudden onset behaviour.
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