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 Post subject: Rehoming idea
PostPosted: 30 Mar 2014, 23:02 
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Like many, I read the rehoming thread with dismay. There has got to be a better way of helping people through this process without every thread degenerating into what we saw this weekend. We all want the best for any dog that is being re-homed but we want to ensure that we do not put off any potential re-homers or people who are rehoming a dog.

My suggestion is a standard response that any of us and copy and paste as the first response to any person asking for help in rehoming their dog. This response should contain ALL the information that a person needs to re-home their dog and it should not be repeated in any other post so that they do not feel that they are being shouted at. With all the negative stuff over and done in one go, it leaves forum members to concentrate on giving support and help which we all know can happen in bucketloads when one of us needs help.

I have drafted a suggested response below (sorry it is quite long but I think everything in there is important) and await your ideas about whether this will work or not:


This is a standard reply to all people who post wishing to re-home a dog for whatever reason. Over time we have discovered that this topic can become quite emotive and the aim of this standard response is to allow forum members to give support to you without repeating the same advice many times over until it feels like you are being shouted at!
As it is a standard reply, many apologies if it covers anything in your original post. It is not meant to sound patronising but is aimed at giving you all the options for re-homing that you may or may not have thought about previously in a supportive and non-judgemental way.

There is a Doodle specific rescue charity called the Doodle Trust (formerly Labradoodle Trust). Their website is http://www.labradoodletrust.com. It is run by volunteers but they will be able to offer advice and may be able to take your doodle in for re-homing in an emergency. As it is run by volunteers, it may take a while for them to call you back – bear with them! The Doodle Trust work by putting rescued dogs into a network of foster homes where they can be health checked and evaluated for suitability in different types of households. Any potential forever homes are vetted by a network of dog owners who can carry out a home check. They will ensure that your dog is neutered prior to re-homing to ensure that he / she does not end up as breeding stock.

We fully understand that this route is not for everyone – many re-homers want to manage the process themselves so that they are happy that their dog goes to a home that they are happy with. There are some pitfalls that you are probably aware of but here is a list of things to consider if you want to manage the process yourself:

Is your dog neutered? Unscrupulous people trawl dog forums looking for unwanted dogs that they could use for breeding in a puppy farm. If your dog is not already neutered, please consider arranging this prior to advertising him / her.

Are you going to home check? There are several people on this forum who are experienced home checkers or who have information about home-checking. If you want to manage the process yourself but would like help with home-checking – please ask and someone will post or PM soon offering help and support. We would certainly advise home-checking to ensure you are happy with the environment that your dog is going into before handing him / her over.

Social Media and internet dangers. We are sure that as an adult you are well aware of the dangers of social media and the internet – people are not always who they say they are. Experience has shown us that a dog offered for re-homing often brings responses from new members – often their first post on the forum. This inevitably leads to questions over why they have not posted before which can sound unnecessarily harsh and unwelcoming. That is not the intention but we are a forum of doodle lovers who want the best for any dog that is about to be re-homed. This is why we recommend home-checking so strongly.

First time posters looking for a rescued dog. We are aware that many people read the forum without posting, often for some time while deciding if a doodle is for them. However, first time posters who are enquiring about re-homing a dog are often treated with a bit of suspicion for the reasons above. If you are looking to re-home a doodle, please introduce yourself on the forum so that we can try and eliminate some of the suspicion.

All potential re-homers. As you can see from everything above, our recommendation is that you are home-checked prior to taking on a dog who is looking for a forever home. If you have other animals, it is important to see how they get on before any decision is made. This is all done in the dog’s best interest – we would all hate to see a dog who has been re-homed once have to repeat the process because things didn’t work out. In addition, if you are keen to re-home a doodle, please contact the Doodle Trust and complete one of their Adoption forms. They may not have any dogs on their website at any given time but there are normally dogs in foster homes being evaluated. Often dogs never get to appear on the website as they are adopted out to people who have completed application forms and are on the waiting list.

I hope that this has all been useful information.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehoming idea
PostPosted: 30 Mar 2014, 23:48 
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wow!!

That's good

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 Post subject: Re: Rehoming idea
PostPosted: 30 Mar 2014, 23:50 
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I think something along those lines might be a good idea. Perhaps a bit shorter :D but well done for thinking about a solution to an ongoing problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehoming idea
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2014, 00:01 
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Good idea, but I think if people want to recommend the LabradoodleTrust they should obviously be allowed to do so, but I don't think an individual rescue should be part of a standard response as there are many others, and not everyone is a supporter of particular ones.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehoming idea
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2014, 00:18 
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Bid wrote:
Good idea, but I think if people want to recommend the LabradoodleTrust they should obviously be allowed to do so, but I don't think an individual rescue should be part of a standard response as there are many others, and not everyone is a supporter of particular ones.



I think the original post is brilliant, thank you Suebedo for taking the time and effort in attempting to get round a very thorny subject.

LT is the the obvious first port of call for a lot of people wanting to rehome or rescue a doodle as they specialise in doods! Who else do you suggest Bid? ( Methinks there may be history here?)


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 Post subject: Re: Rehoming idea
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2014, 00:47 
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gilly g wrote:
I think the original post is brilliant, thank you Suebedo for taking the time and effort in attempting to get round a very thorny subject.

I second that!
Would it be possible to get in something about dog-baiting (it's another one of my worries...)
And how would the Doodle Trust feel about it? Would we need to ask first?
I have to admit that if I was a new potential doodle adopter I'd be reluctant to raise my head above the parapet at the moment! Hopefully something along suebedo's guidelines would help...
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 Post subject: Re: Rehoming idea
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2014, 01:06 
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gilly g wrote:
Methinks there may be history here?


Lol - no history. I am happy to help out the trust where I can, but I know there are other organisations also involved in rehoming doodles so I don't think naming one in a standard reply is the way to go. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Rehoming idea
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2014, 06:41 
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I'll have another go tonight to try and add dog fighting in and generalise rescue organisations. Is Doodle Aid the other main Doodle rescue? I think that they avoid the foster route if they can - anyone have any contact details for them that could be added?

And I'll see if I've duplicated anywhere in there and reduce it a bit!!

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 Post subject: Re: Rehoming idea
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2014, 07:30 
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suebedo wrote:
I'll have another go tonight to try and add dog fighting in and generalise rescue organisations. Is Doodle Aid the other main Doodle rescue? I think that they avoid the foster route if they can - anyone have any contact details for them that could be added?

And I'll see if I've duplicated anywhere in there and reduce it a bit!!


Sue, thank you so much for taking the time to draft this standard response! Xx

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 Post subject: Re: Rehoming idea
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2014, 09:58 
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Good idea for a standard response.

Could something be added in the bit about people looking for a Doodle (1st time Doodle owners) suggesting they make contact with a Doodle Meet (look under the Mess Section) and go along on one of the walks. That way they find out first hand about the many different types, sizes, colours and pitfalls of Doodle ownership. They will also have a great time and become part of a support network for the times their new Doodle drives them nuts!

It will also give people on this Forum the chance to acknowledge that the new person is actually a human being that exists, not a troll or sock puppet.

As many of you know, I've been a poster here for some years, as has Bid and many others, and we have seen first hand the trolls and abusers, including a gloating puppy farmer who got his hands on a Doodle girl who was advertised on here for re-homing. It is all extremely upsetting when you care about the welfare of dogs, especially Doodles whose photos and descriptions are posted on here.

Some of us were also involved in the exposure of the huge Doodle scam of Beverly Manners and Rutland Manor, despite the vilification we received and threats for daring to raise our heads and say 'This is Wrong!'.

NEVER be afraid to speak your mind and stand up and be counted over preventing abuse of animals. It may not always be tactful, people's feelings may be hurt, the socks and trolls may run amok but... it is the animals who matter and their welfare should always be paramount.

A vast amount of good has come from dogs being re-homed on here, including my Becky, so I would always argue for the re-homing section to be kept.

I also agree with Bid that individual rescues are not always the only port of call and that to single one out is not the best idea, especially when they are overflowing with dogs already and haven't time to respond quickly. The Trust is not the only Doodle homing charity.

'All for the Love of Dogs' is another that trawls the pre-loved and Gumtree ads and tries to help any dogs advertised for free or cheaply and then get them into appropriate homes or rescues. Last weekend I was running two little flea-ridden, abused scraps down to K9 Crusaders rescue in Cornwall. If you love dogs then you only want to help, no matter the breed, size, shape and sex.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehoming idea
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:D great idea Sue.....I'm all for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehoming idea
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2014, 12:49 
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Well done sue :D

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 Post subject: Re: Rehoming idea
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2014, 14:17 
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Well done, sue- first class job!! Some interesting responses too. Re the ' meets' - IMO, that's a bit England - centric! If I was looking for a Rescue Dood where I live, how could I possibly get to a meet???? . Not your issue to respond to, Sue, and I understand that emotions have run high, but PLEASE all, don't alienate those genuinely interested!


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 Post subject: Re: Rehoming idea
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What a great idea - well done!


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 Post subject: Re: Rehoming idea
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2014, 20:12 
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OK guys, some help please. I've just done loads of different searches to look for a rescue site for doodles and they are either in America or they are the Doodle Trust (this forum also came up!!). If we are giving advice, we need to offer some routes to rescue sites and I am stumped with only the doodle Trust so far. I'll carry on with the rest of the editing while pondering on how best to signpost. Hopefully by the time I've finished the rest, someone will have had a brainwave! :D :D

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