Help please in a panic!!!!!

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Re: Help please in a panic!!!!!

Post by MrsAdmin » 24 Mar 2010, 15:59

Understandably, you are in a panic :cry: I would be too, poor Riley.

However, so far it's been very quick in the vet giving a 'diagnosis' from one set of X-rays. 'Cloudy' lungs could indicate infection that can be treated with anti-Bs or steroids, and not necessarily anything as drastic as cancer :wink: .

Hopefully the referral will come through quickly and you can make progress with a clear knowledge of what is happening. Where in the country are you? Perhaps someone knows of a specialist dog hospital locally you could ask for referral to. Bristol is supposed to be brilliant, as is Edinburgh.

Just a thought, is Riley a log or chippings chewer? I remember Katherine (I think) posting a warning about dogs chewing and splinters getting inhaled.

Keep positive and get well vibes coming to Riley from Jack and Becky.
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Re: Help please in a panic!!!!!

Post by Fraggle69 » 24 Mar 2010, 23:47

Thanks so much for all your support. Most appreciated :D

Well here is an update...... spoke to vets early evening and after sending Riley's X-rays to a specialist, he had requested that another set of X-ray be taken as the lungs were not inflated on the last set, as they were only actually looking for something in his nose!! And only found the cloudy lung thing by chance, before he can actually make any diagnosis.

After speaking with our vet for ages, who was lovely, Decided that as Riley is only doing the odd sneeze, and showing no obvious signs of either pneomonia or lung cancer, we will just monitor him for time being. Got to ring her monday to let her know how hes been, then I suppose decide from there.

No really sure whether to go for another set of X-rays or just wait and see, worred if I leave it until, or if, he starts showing signs of something, it might be to late to treat.

Must also say all your positive thoughts must have helped Smiley Riley ihe is pretty much back to his normal self, been playing and chasing our cats today :D

Thanks Kelly and Riley xxxx

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Re: Help please in a panic!!!!!

Post by KateW » 25 Mar 2010, 00:16

Glad that Riley is so much brighter today, Kelly.

Obviously your vet is the best person to advise you but I would suggest you discuss having Riley's blood tested. This is a quick and non invasive procedure and the results come through quickly. And then you would have a clear idea as to whether or not further investigation is required.

Please keep us updated and fingers crossed all will be well.

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Re: Help please in a panic!!!!!

Post by KateW » 25 Mar 2010, 00:41

MrsAdmin wrote:
Just a thought, is Riley a log or chippings chewer? I remember Katherine (I think) posting a warning about dogs chewing and splinters getting inhaled.
Yes, Cecilia, I have posted several times about dogs ingesting particles after chewing wood which end up in their lungs. This is another very good reason to discourage stick chasing and chewing apart from the obvious risks of a dog damaging his throat, etc ...

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Re: Help please in a panic!!!!!

Post by Bid » 25 Mar 2010, 01:38

Tough call! Usually I would tend towards avoiding any unnecessary GAs. but if there is a possibility of lung cancer, then personally I would go fo a second x-ray on a young dog, in the hope that it can either be shown not to be the case, or treated as soon as poss! It does sound unlikely though - we'll be keeping our fingers crossed for you - what a roller-coaster!
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Re: Help please in a panic!!!!!

Post by joanneday » 25 Mar 2010, 08:38

I have to say it all sounds VERY fishy to me
Lungs are ALWAYS inflated due to negative pressure between the pleura (lung covering) and chest wall
Collapsed (or non-inflated) lungs usually occur because of a piercing injury between the ribs allowing atmospheric air which is at a higher pressure into the chest.
This causes acute respiratory distress and is a medical emergency requiring the immediate insertion of a chest drain to allow the lung to re-inflate.
It sounds very much to me as though the x-rays were simply poor quality (cloudy?) and thats why they need a new set (it's not at all uncommon especially with inexperienced radiographers).
Or, if they were looking for a foreign body in the nose, the whole lung field may not be included on the first set and that's why they'd want a new set
As Riley now seems well I really wouldn't bother or perhaps you could ask whether a course of antibiotics would be justified (without the expense and upset of another GA and x-ray) ?

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Re: Help please in a panic!!!!!

Post by lizziesmum » 25 Mar 2010, 09:27

wow Joanneday that sounds like an experienced voice,what do you do for a living.Freda
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Re: Help please in a panic!!!!!

Post by joanneday » 25 Mar 2010, 13:51

Freda- I now work as a school nurse which is a great job (and non-acute phew :) ) but I'm a registered nurse, used to be a registered midwife and I spent quite a few years working in teaching hospitals (including quite a bit of time on chest wards)
Obviously I'm not a vet but I do remember some anatomy and physiology and have seen quite a few x-rays on ward rounds and heard them discussed by the consultants so what Kelly reported her vet had said about the x-rays on Riley does seem a little odd?
I know humans aren't dogs (well most of us anyway :D ) but we're all mammals aren't we so i guess our lungs work along the same lines?

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Post by lizziesmum » 25 Mar 2010, 19:28

Joanneday,Thats interesting,its good to get to know each other.Ive been a school cook and then a nanny, Im retired now,just spend my days looking after the grandchildren and walking Lizzie.Happy days.Freda
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Re: Help please in a panic!!!!!

Post by iwantadog » 25 Mar 2010, 20:12

You've got me worried now!

I posted on here the other day to say that Murphy was sneezing quite a lot, but quite weirdly only when he's outside. I just assumed that he had an allergy to something, so phoned the vet to ask how much Piriton to give him. He said try Piriton and see how I get on, so I have done and he seems to be a bit better, but he also said if it carries on to take him in as he might have something up his nose, it just seems weird that he is only really sneezing when he goes outside and particularly first thing in the morning......

Hope Riley is feeling better.

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Re: Help please in a panic!!!!!

Post by lizziesmum » 26 Mar 2010, 18:41

I dont know if its the same in dogs but my son has leaf hayfever at the moment.Freda
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Re: Help please in a panic!!!!!

Post by msloopylynn » 27 Mar 2010, 13:18

Hi Kelly,

I'm so sorry to hear that Riley is unwell, I know how much we worry about them.
Wishing him a real speedy recovery, and peace of mind for you.

Love and hugs

Lynn and louie

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Re: Help please in a panic!!!!!

Post by janettehamman » 27 Mar 2010, 15:10

Hi Kelly, glad Riley seems a bit better. Unless absolutely necessary personally I wouldn't let my dog have an anaesthtic now as you say RIley was not good after it and I know my Holly was really ill after one that was maybe not that important in the end, they are not to be taken lightly the same as for an adult they carry lots of risks.

Obviously it is very difficult decision for you.

Sending you are best wishes

Janette, Holly & Daisy xxx
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